This is a public Forum  public

Service & Maintenance Question

    Bruce Kreft
    How do you drain the oil on a HU725AWD/BBC mower with a...
    Service & Maintenance Question posted April 19, 2016 by Bruce Kreft 
    336 Views, 6 Comments
    Question:
    How do you drain the oil on a HU725AWD/BBC mower with a Briggs and Stratton engine?
    Details:

    After removing the blade and the BBC cover I could not locate a engine oil drain plug, where did they hide it?

    • Be the first to rate this

      |

    • Bookmark and Share

    Answer

     

    • Eugene Rounds

      Briggs has been deleting the oil drain for some time now. I rather see drain plug myself but its not my decision.

      Here is the oil change instructions from your owners manual.

      • Be the first to rate this

        |

    • Bruce Kreft

      I guess I will not be purchasing any Briggs engines. Kawasaki and Honda still have drain plugs. How in the world can you perform good maintenance using the procedures they publish?

      • Be the first to rate this

        |

      • Eugene Rounds

        MTD several years ago were making tillers that you had siphon the oil even the even though the engines had a drain plug. No way to get to it; unless, you removed the engine. 

        Briggs has actual came with engines that they claim needs no oil changes.

        • Be the first to rate this

          |

    • Bruce Kreft

      Eugene,

      Briggs is claiming the oil does not need to be changed in some of their engines. Well, they are repeating history. In the sixties and seventies a Briggs engine was the best you could own. Then they got sloppy and did not care and started producing junk. Imports started getting better and ate their lunch. Briggs wised up and improved their product line, but a lot of the damage had been done. Now they come up with this do not need to change the oil campaign. Oil does three (3) major functions: it cools, it lubricates and it holds in suspension contaminants which are removed during an oil change. Oil also has additives that improve lubricity and features called for by the design engineers. Oil does not wear out, but the additive package needs to be restored and the contaminants removed.

      • Be the first to rate this

        |

      • Eugene Rounds

        Being a repair tech myself fully understand why oil and grease are used. I just finish disassembling a Murray mower where the user didn't even put oil when they brought the mower. Needless to say a broken rod and hole in crankcase killed that engine.

        When talking bout quality all the major small engine manufactures are now having engines and parts made in you guess it made in China but at least quality controls control by manufactures such as Briggs and MTD among others are in place. These engines have really cheapen over the last few years in both design and quality, from plastic gears to plastic carburetors.

        It is a major feature sometime just find out who made the products and if parts are even available. Just latest discussion I was in was of a manufacture wanting to end user to buy a complete axle for his Hydro Gear transmission when all he needed was the replaceable wheel studs.

        • Be the first to rate this

          |

    • Bruce Kreft

      Eugene,

      Back in the mid 1980's a manufacturer raised the top compression ring closer to the deck of the piston and changed the timing one (1) degree in an attempt to meet some emissions requirements. What they did not realize at the time was this action had some very bad consequences. The emissions were met, but at the cost of the engine oil. It turned out that this seemingly insignificant change resulted in higher concentration of soot to be forced into the crankcase of which the oil had to suspend. Long story short, it could not, which means the oil companies now had to reformulate their oils to meet the new engine demands.

      Today we see lower tension on the piston rings in an attempt to increase fuel economy via less parasitic drag. The downside is that now we are seeing increased contaminants being introduced to the crankcase in the form of blow by.

      I was always taught that the oil is the life blood of the engine and you cannot take it too lightly or it will come back to haunt you big time.

      Bruce

      • Be the first to rate this

        |