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    Tracy Shupe
    I have a 562xp and have noticed that in cold weather after a...escalated
    Service & Maintenance Question posted January 3, 2014 by Tracy Shupe 
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    I have a 562xp and have noticed that in cold weather after a short idle time i grab the throttle and it bogs down. I am going to order the cold weather cooling air block. Do you think this will fix the issue? Also whats the difference between the three different air filters? Should i run a different one for winter and summer?
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    • Frank Maglin

      Hi Tracy. I have a 550xp that has had one tank of fuel run through it so far and yesterday it was doing the same thing. The ambient Temperature was 15 degrees F when I experienced this issue. Im not certain if it was due to the cold air, or if it was due to not being broken in yet. I was told that it would take 10 tanks of fuel before it would be fully broken in.  I dont have any complaints about how it runs in the cut, only the hesitation upon acceleration after an extended idle. I received the cold weather air block when I purchased my saw, but did not use it. We have some arctic temps arriving this week. I am going to use the cold air block and see if it will make a difference. Im running 91 octane Marathon gas mixed with Husqvarna XP 2 cycle oil. Im hoping someone will chime in with more information on what is causing the problem.

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    • Karla

      Tracy and Frank,

      I would guess that it is probably the fuel causing the carburation problem, a small amount of moisture will cause the problem with the carburator. I would probably recommend trying a tankful of the canned pre-mix, just to evaluate under the same conditions if that makes a difference.

      The difference in the three filters, are a 40 micron filter, and 80 micron filter, and the standard felt filter, and Yes if the air filter is getting wet, and icy then that also could give you the same symptoms, so I would probably try under the same conditions for a test only, and definitely Not during cutting, when you could get any dirt into the carburator, try running momentarily without the filter, just make sure everything in the carb compartment is good and clean before running without a filter, and see if it bogs down then its probably the filter.

      I was told by Husqvarna that the 80 & 40 micron filters were for wet conditions, ie, cutting wood when its snowing, etc. and the standard filter could ice up in the winter. I have Not experienced that myself, but I do keep one of my chainsaws with the winter kit installed (which has the air intake partially blocked, also has an air bypass that pulls heated air off the engine cylinder into the carb compartment, and has an 80 micon air filter installed.) I have not had a problem yet with this saw in the winter.

      I hope this helps!

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    • Tracy Shupe

      I went out today with a clean air filter and it was probably around 30F or colder. I used the canned Husky fuel and the saw started with 4 pulls. my friends sthil took five pulls :) but after any idle time it would just bog down and almost die when i tried to throttle it up so i do think its the cold. i do not have the removable plug for a warm air intake for the carb but i do hope the cold air kit will help. ill let you all know when the parts get here

       

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      • Frank Maglin

        Today I outfitted my 550xp with the cold air kit. I ran it in 3 degrees F for over an hour and had no hesitation. Hope this fixes your problem also.

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    • Karla

      Tracey,

      Thanks for the feedback and Info, I will be very curious if the cold air kit does work for you. Maybe since the carburator is so cold, it doesn't atomize the fuel and air properly before it goes into the engine, but thats only a guess, and of course once the fuel and air are inside the engine, If the engine is warmed up you should have no problem with ignition.

      Is your engine one of the new autotunes ? If not, I would probably also try tweaking the "L" low idle adjustment maybe an 1/8 to 1/4 turn counterclockwise. But wait till you get the kit and see if that makes a difference, if not try a little tweak.

      Just remember how far you turned it so you can turn it back to the original setting if it doesn't fix the problem. Also you probably have limiters on the screw adjustments, so you will not be able to adjust it very far from the original settings.

      I hope this helps.

      PS. Also don't forget in the summertime or when the seasons change to remove the winter kit.

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    • Karla

      Frank,

      Thanks for the good News, I hope Tracy has a similar experience.

      I always try to remember to Install my winter kit in the late fall, once the temperatures are down to the low 50's, like November, and then I take it back off again in the early spring, like April.

      I would be curious about the scientific reason, but its probably just that the fuel isn't warm enough to properly atomize with the air in the carburator. So by preheating the carburator compartment, it takes care of that problem, and obviously the engine is definitely hot enough when its running.

      But anyhow, again Thanks for the Information, and glad your chainsaw is running.

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      • Frank Maglin

        Thanks Karla. It may just be more sensative on Autotune carburetors. I also run a 395xp that I ran felling a 65 acre plot in 4 degree weather I never did any winterization to it and never had a problem. I'm anxious to hear Tracys results. 

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    • Tracy Shupe

      Yes it is the auto tune. As soon as the parts get here I'm planning on helping my neighbor cut some wood so ill let you know how it goes. Thanks again

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    • DJ Clary

      Yes folks I have a similar problem. My saw is new, the dealer plugged it in, I have 144 starts in 8.5 running hours. My saw does not just bog, it quits when I hit the throttle! So frustrating I sought out this forum. After reading this thread, it may have to do with temp and humidity, the problem seems to have arisen with the onset of fall/ winter weather. What exactly is included in a  winter kit?

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      • Frank Maglin

        Hi DJ. Does the dealer think the cold weather kit will solve the problem? My 550xp really smoothed out after about the 5th tank of fuel. The cold weather kit helped also. I did read on some other forums where early SN saws had carb problems. Just was curious what your dealer had to say. 

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    • Karla

      DJ,

      Most of the Winter kits have 3 or 4 parts, you will have to look up accessories for your specific chainsaw model, and it may be listed towards the back of your chainsaw operating manual.

      But on mine, I have four pieces, a new air filter which is an 80 micron mesh, and replaces the felt filter to prevent moisture from freezing on the filter and blocking it. Second part is a 1" rubber grommet, you remove the plastic round embossed knockout inside the top cover, this will allow warm air from the cylinder to be pulled directly into the carburetor. And,  In the summer or warmer weather you install the rubber grommet in the hole you created to block the air and prevent overheating in the summer. Third piece is a large, aprox. 4 x 5 " blue cover that fits onto the outside of the starter housing, and blocks some of the allowable air that gets pulled into the engine by the flywheel, and fourth piece is a small finger like piece that also gets fastened to the blue outside cover, and extends through the starter housing, and into the air scoop which is next to the flywheel, this blocks some of the turbo air in the air scoop.

      I hope this helps.

      PS. I am Not a Husqvarna Representative or an Authorized Repair, just an experimental chainsaw person.

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    • DJ Clary

      Frank I saw your question in my e-mail but not here (strangely). The dealer had no opinion or ideas, but thought maybe the winter kit and a mesh air filter would be worth a try. I bought my saw in august 2013, I don't believe that would be an early model. I have installed my winter kit but have yet to run it. Thanks for the info Karla!

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