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    Articulated mower engine dies when engaging the deckescalated
    Service & Maintenance Question posted June 11, 2014 by *** day, last edited June 11, 2014 
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    Question:
    Articulated mower engine dies when engaging the deck
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    I know that moderators don't check the list anymore but am hoping that another user a whole lot smarter than me can figure this out.

     

    We just received the r220t mower last week, the shipping crate was destroyed but not as bad as the first one they shipped. The freight company destroyed the tractor and later took it away and the dealer shipped me another.  This was not as bad of shape as the first one, but the dealer is sending me both fenders, the engine cover, the back plate that sits behind the engine and says "HOT" and the clip that holds the engine hood down. The plastic piece that rests on the deck looks like it got run over, so they are sending one of those as well.

    When I first tried to start the engine, it ran like the choke was stuck on. The set screw was loose on the choke cable, problem fixed.

    When the deck arrived (they lost it on the second shipment)  I un-boxed it from what was left of the crate and mounted it on the mower and was all set to go do some serious cutting.  Na.  When I started letting the deck down (it moves a tension pulley back at the engine) the engine died.  I thought maybe I let it down too quickly. Nope.

    The deck belt was a bugger to get on, so I thought maybe that was too tight. Nope.  I removed it and still the engine died.  There are three pullies under there, one at the engine that goes to a mid-mount pulley and the mid-mount pulley is connected to the belt that runs the deck.

    I removed the belt that runs from the engine to the mid-mount pulley and the engine does not die. I am thinking maybe the tension on the belt is too high but there is no adjustment, also the belt is taught but not too tight.  The mid-mount pulley spins freely. The tension roller also spins freely.  It's strange but the engine just shuts off way before the deck pulley is fully engaged.

    No one within a 100 miles would even order one for me, so I bought from Jack's in Maryland.   They have been great to deal with but I can see them seeing me as the "customer from hell". While it's not my fault, we have had a lot of problems.

    In any case, if anyone is actually reading this, I would appreciate some feedback.

    Thanks  

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    • Eugene Rounds

      Sorry you having such a problem with getting one delivered and working. I went though something similar in the mid 80's when I got my Troy-bilt horse tiller.

      Sounds like a loose wiring harness connector or damaged wiring. Check especially the wiring going to seat switch. Many of these seat switch connectors now contain a shorting strip to prevent the operator from simply disconnecting them to disable the seat safety system.

      I haven't seen of these in person so I just well the wiring is shielded from the moving parts. Good luck on the repairs.

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      • *** day

        I figured out what was causing the engine to stall every time we tried to move it,. The seat safety switch was barely plugged in. I re-seated it and it appears to work the way it should.

        The engine would die when  I would start to lower the lever , which engages the deck.   There is a metal clip that is supposed to keep the deck belt from coming off the pulley. Of all of the pulleys, that one just didn't look/feel right.  I removed the piece of metal, and it purrs like a kitten.

        If anyone who reads this is considering buying one of the articulated mowers, do yourself a favor and buy it from a local dealer. When things like this happen, they are there to support you.  I am sure all of these issues would have been taken care of before the unit was delivered.  Obviously, if you're like me, with no dealers in your area, you don't have much of a choice.

         

        If you do buy on-line, may I suggest Jacks Small Engines? They are one of the larger power equipment dealers on the internet and provide free tech support for the life of the equipment. I think if I had it to do all over, I would find  a servicing dealer that was close enough that you could get there and back all in one day and order it from them. You'd need a small trailer, but when you pick it up, all of the hassles I went through would have been handled by the dealer. 

         

        In any case, the unit is functional.

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        • Eugene Rounds

          Glad to hear you got it fix.

          Agree about using the local servicing dealer for equipment purchases but beware they can be backlogged several weeks this time of year. Instead of you going through this problem they would have done so and would have save you a lot of headaches.

          From you comments it sounds you fairly confident repairman. Who knows you might take repairing lawn equipment in the future.smiley

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    • *** day

      When I was growing up in Baltimore, we had a rather large GM assembly plant there. There was a standing joke that you "never bought a Monday Chevy".  There is a lot of truth in that.  Workers would get plastered over the weekend and come in Monday morning with hangovers, so any cars that rolled out of the plant on Mondays may have had a lot of issues.  I am convinced I have a "Monday Husqvarna".

      So far (I have a feeling there may be more) the problems that I have run into are:

      the safety switch under the seat does not always work

      the oil filter was leaking, it was not on very tight

      one of the pulleys has a spring-loaded clip that keeps the belt from coming off, that clip is what was causing the engine to die. It was causing the pulley to lock up.

      just today I discovered that the chain (looks like a bike chain) that raises and lowers the deck was off the vertical pulley and was rubbing against the steering cables.

      plus 7 pieces that were damaged ... right fender, left fender, engine cover, the "hood" that covers the deck pulleys and a spring assy that keeps a belt from coming off the pulley.

       

      I ordered the first unit  the middle of May. Tonight, for the first time I was able to start the engine and cut grass!  It is nimble, has plenty of power and the steering is incredible.  This will replace our 4 year old JD X304 that has all-wheel steering.  THAT is a beast of a tractor. The only reason we bought the Husqvarna is due to the deck on the JD.  My arthritis has reached a point that I can no longer fight with the JD deck to get it from under the tractor to clean.  When I was done cutting with the Husqvarna tonight, I flipped the deck up and just rinsed the grass off.  THAT is the only reason I bought this tractor.

      The JD is sturdier, a lot heavier and way quieter but keeping the deck clean was a pain.

       

      Thanks for the response.

       

       

       

       

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