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    Michael Stout
    I recently purchased a Husqvarna 240, Within one tank of...
    General Product Question posted July 20, 2016 by Michael Stout 
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    I recently purchased a Husqvarna 240, Within one tank of fuel it was cutting on angle. I checked for a dull chain but it was brand new. I noticed the chain would roll on the bottom of the bar (not on the top). The bar was worn on side like it got hot. I bought another Husqvarna bar and made sure the chain was sharp and again within one tank of fuel it was cutting on an angle. The oiler seems to working properly and I can not see anything misaligned as to the chain to bar. What is causing the bar to wear out on one side?
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    • Karla

      Michael, 

      There are actually a number of reasons that this could be ocuring:

      One of the problems usually starts with a chain being incorrectly sharpened, If a chain is hand sharpened, and understanding the components of a chain, an individual might change the length of each tooth on only one side by oversharpening that side (ie. right cutter side). When we hand sharpen, we have a tendency to be stronger on one side, filing away at say the right cutters more, making all the right cutters shorter in length than the left cutters, and then the chain will lean and cut to one side, with alot of use in this condition the bar will then wear to one side,

      I hope that makes sense. The fix for this condition is checking the length of the left and right cutters, and taking the chain to a professional shop, who then should make all of the teeth, both right and left cutters the same length with a machine, but of course the bar would also need to be ground  even, so that the rails of the bar are even too, or buy a new bar. Again, this is one possibility, However when ever I work on a complaint with a bar and chain, I always do the following procedure:

      1. Starting with the drive sprocket, check the condition of the drive sprocket for wear, and if worn I replace it, and I also replace the drive sprocket bearing which keeps the drive sprocket true to the plane of the crankshaft and bar mounting,  I also check the drive sprocket pitch, I have seen too many times a mis-match of the drive sprocket pitch,  to the bar and chain pitch. Remember all three pitches of drive sprocket, bar, and chain, must match. You cannot have a ,325 pitch drive sprocket with a 3/8 pitch bar and chain. I have seen this problem alot.

      2. When  checking the bar, I always check the condition of the bar first and clean it, making sure there is no pinches in the bar groove, I check the condition of the bar groove and make sure its thoroughly clean, and that the rails are not overly worn,  I use a flat surface to make sure the bar is not bent, and then check the bar rails by standing the bar up on edge on a flat surface as well. Checking both the top rails and bottoms rails, If the bar falls over onto the flat surface or leans to one side than I know the rail is worn un-evenly, and needs repair. I also check the condition of the nose sprocket making sure its not too worn down, and that it is clean and spins freely checking the bearing also, and then thoroughly lubricating the nose sprocket. Using an air compressor really helps in getting everything clean, just be careful with pointing the nozzle of the airgun.

      3. When sharpening a chain, I do some hand sharpening if I'm out in the field with a chainsaw and just want to touch it up a little, but I also usually have multiple chains with me, and rather than doing alot of sharpening  in the field, its easier for me change chains,  to re-sharpen back in the shop. I also periodically machine sharpen a chain to make sure the teeth are all even, and also verify I have the correct angles. Its very important that a chain is sharpened with the correct angles or you will not be making nice big wood chips but just sawdust. I always check the angles of the cutters with a gauge, and check the depth of the rakers with a gauge also.

      Anyhow, when I'm all done checking and performing the steps outlined above, I have never had a problem, and always fixed the problem found. You must be real thorough, and check everything, also a thorough cleaning is imperative, of drive sprocket, bar, and chain. I use a solution of 50% water & 50 % household ammonia in a bucket, and wear rubber, a 30 minute soak of the bar and chain, and all dirt, grime, wood burn, tree sap comes off in the solution with maybe a little bit of brushing on really dirty chains. The ammonia will not destroy the bar decal or lettering, but will make the bar and chain look like new. I also then use the air compressor to dry and blow off the water and solution, use eye protection too. The bar and chain are then thoroughly lubricated before putting it back on the chainsaw, also checking that each link of the chain moves freely, and that there is no binding between individual chain links. 

      Finally, Installing the chain and bar onto a chainsaw, and checking the chain for the proper tension, Not too tight, or you will heat up the bar and chain, and prematurely stretch and wear both the bar and chain out, and Also Not too loose that the chain will come off of the bar, The tension has to be just right, After the chain is tensioned correctly, and with a gloved hand pull on the chain several times to insure the chain has traveled completely around the bar, check for any jumping of chain, make sure the chain pulls freely, and easily, and that there are no problems felt, If you get any hick-ups or jumps then remove the bar and chain from the chainsaw, and check it again.

      I know, It sounds like a long procedure but after you have done this a few times, you will be able to do this in less than 10 minutes which is really no time at all, and well worth it when you want to go cut wood.

      I hope this detailed procedure helps you find and locate your problem

      Karla

      PS. I am Not a Husqvarna Representative or a Repair Service, Just an experimental chainsaw person

       

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      • Michael Stout

        Thank you for the response but, this is a brand new chainsaw, the problems started within the FIRST tank of gas. I don't understand why this new chainsaw would have worn parts and why it would need cleaning.

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        • Eugene Rounds

          Michael chains can get dull in least than one tank depending on the cutting conditions. I even had to resharpen after just one cut of some trees (12" to 36" diameter blocks of wood). I even had to sharpen in of a mid cut a few times in my 30 yrs cutting firewood. I have also destroyed numerous chains over years by hitting nails, wire, rocks. and even a railroad spike in trees.

          If you having to rock the saw up and down in the cut to get it to cut then the chain has dulled. A sharp chain should cut without any rocking and just the weight of the saw; otherwords, like a hot knife through butter.

          Can't explain the wearing one side more than the other than heavy handed use. Also you don't need to replace the bar just because the lower cutting side is worn. you can flip the bar over once for more life.

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    • Karla

      Michael.

      Just one more thought, I know you said the chainsaw,  bar and chain were  all new,I hope you checked that all packing materials were removed prior to running the chainsaw? 

      I had heard of one individual that left a packing Plastic/ styrafoam washer on one of the bar nuts under the clutch cover, and installed the bar and chain on top of this shipping washer, and then replaced the clutch cover.

      Oh, this shipping washer/ spacer had clearly stamped on it, "To throw this away". This shipping spacer/washer would definitely throw off the plane of travel, between the drive sprocket and bar and chain. I believe this part is also described in your owners manual as well.

      Again, I hope this helps and please let me know what you discover.

      Karla

      PS. I am Not a Husqvarna Representative or a Repair Service, Just an experimental chainsaw person

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    • Karla

      Michael,

      See my second response, or follow-up.

      You are correct, you probably won't have to do any cleaning If its brand new, and None of my first reply should apply to a brand new working chainsaw, but thought you would like to have a list of things which are related to bar and chain problems.

      Anyhow, If I think  of some other suggestions, I will let you know. Also I have used my check list for anyone that has bar and chain problems, and usually can find the problem. If you read thru the list, and then go check your chainsaw, it should take less than 5 minutes.

      I hope this helps, and definitely will be curious as to what you discover.

      Karla 

      PS. I am Not a Husqvarna Representative or a Repair Service, Just an experimental chainsaw person

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